Public lands belong to all of us—protecting them requires people to speak up, stay united, and act with courage.
In this episode, Bill and Anders sit down with Theodore Roosevelt IV, who they call Ted, to talk about Alaska, public lands, and what it means to carry forward a legacy of stewardship. Ted shares powerful stories from his own time in Alaska, like camping on the banks of the Kongakut River and waking to the sound of caribou herds moving with their calves, or exploring Southeast Alaska’s coast with his family and watching his son wander ahead in the wild. These moments shaped his deep belief that Alaska’s vast landscapes are irreplaceable and that we have a duty to protect them.
The conversation touches on the Tongass, the only temperate rainforest in the United States, and the importance of its salmon streams, old-growth forests, and intact habitat. Ted talks about the threats of rescinding the roadless rule, the push to sell off public lands, and how groups like Americans for Alaska are working to defend these places. He reflects on ANILCA, the landmark legislation that set aside so much of Alaska for the public good while also honoring Indigenous communities, and he warns that unraveling those protections would have consequences for conservation across the country.
Along the way, Ted reminds us that public lands belong to all of us and that protecting them requires people to speak up, stay united, and act with courage. The conversation leaves us asking: What does stewardship look like in our own lives? How do we honor the legacies we’ve inherited? What are the false economies we risk chasing at the expense of wild places? And, perhaps most importantly, what kind of legacy do we want to leave for future generations?
Today, we explore:
- Early Alaska Experiences – Ted’s stories of flying over the Brooks Range, camping by wild rivers, and watching migrating caribou.
- Family Adventures on the Coast – exploring Southeast Alaska with loved ones, paddling near whales, and watching the next generation discover the wild.
- The Tongass Rainforest – why this rare habitat matters, from towering old growth trees to the salmon runs that sustain life.
- Public Lands Under Threat – proposals to sell off Alaska’s wild places and roll back protections that keep them intact.
- ANILCA and Indigenous Respect – the promise of a landmark law that safeguarded land and began honoring Indigenous communities.
- Americans for Alaska – a revived coalition of hunters, anglers, and advocates working to defend the state’s lands and waters.
- Stewardship and Legacy – what it means to be good stewards, act with courage, and pass on a conservation ethic.
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Resources and mentions from today’s episode:
Press and Media
- Boys’ Life
Scouting magazine remembered for survival stories and Tom Swifties. - The Economist
International weekly news magazine on global affairs and economics. - Douglas Brinkley’s The Quiet World
Book on Alaska’s conservation history and public lands. - Artifishal: The Fight to Save Wild Salmon
Patagonia’s documentary highlighting environmental impacts of fish farming.
Organizations and Coalitions
- The Wilderness Society
- Center for Climate and Energy Solutions
- Smithsonian American Museum of Natural History
- The Climate Reality Project
- Alaska Wilderness League
- Americans for Alaska
Places and Landmarks
- Glacier Bay (Southeast Alaska)
- Brooks Range (Arctic Alaska)
- Prudhoe Bay (North Slope, Alaska)
- Kongakut River (Arctic Refuge, Alaska)
- Tongass National Forest (Southeast Alaska)
Government and Policy References
Connect with Today's Guest
Theodore Roosevelt IV is a conservation leader, Navy veteran, and investment banker who has carried forward his family’s legacy of stewardship into the 21st century. A great-grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt, he has served on the boards of The Wilderness Society, the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions, and the American Museum of Natural History, while also working in sustainable finance as Managing Director at Barclays Capital.
Ted’s connection to Alaska runs deep. He has camped along the Kongakut River in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, where he witnessed caribou herds migrating with their calves, and he has paddled the outer coast of Southeast Alaska with his family, watching whales pass by and exploring wild rivers. These experiences left him with a lasting respect for the state’s harsh beauty and the fragility of its ecosystems. He has spoken passionately about protecting the Tongass, the nation’s only temperate rainforest, and about the importance of defending ANILCA, the landmark 1980 law that safeguarded millions of acres while recognizing Indigenous rights.
Today, Ted continues that work through efforts like Americans for Alaska, a coalition revived to defend the state’s lands and waters from industrial and political threats. For him, Alaska is more than a wild landscape—it is a proving ground for conservation, a place where the choices we make will echo for generations.
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