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Andrew Thoms: The Tongass, America’s Largest National Forest and a Key Roadless Landscape
As The Wild Idea concludes Roadless Month, hosts Bill Hodge and Anders Reynolds turn their attention north — to Southeast Alaska and the Tongass National Forest, the largest national forest in the United States and the world’s largest intact temperate rainforest.
Covering nearly 17 million acres, the Tongass has become a focal point in national debates over old-growth logging, climate resilience, rural economies, and the future of the Roadless Rule. Joining the conversation is Andrew Thoms, Executive Director of Sitka Conservation Society, who brings decades of experience working at the intersection of community, conservation, and economic transition in Southeast Alaska.
Peter Metcalf and Terry Tatsey: Blackfeet Nation Stewardship and a Living Landscape in the Badger–Two Medicine
As The Wild Idea continues Roadless Month, hosts Bill Hodge and Anders Reynolds turn their focus to one of the most culturally and ecologically significant landscapes in Montana: the Badger–Two Medicine. Situated along the Rocky Mountain Front, just south of Glacier National Park, the Badger–Two Medicine is a place where roadless protection, wildlife habitat, and deep Indigenous responsibility converge. For generations, it has been central to the lifeways, origin stories, and stewardship practices of the Blackfeet Nation — long before Montana existed as a state. Joining the conversation are Terry Tatsey, a member of the Blackfeet Nation with lifelong ties to the Badger–Two Medicine, and Peter Metcalf, Executive Director of the Glacier–Two Medicine Alliance. Together, they explore why this landscape matters, how decades of advocacy successfully ended oil and gas leasing in 2023, and what is now at stake as the U.S. Department of Agriculture considers rescinding the Roadless Rule.
Bjorn Fredrickson & Raul Turrieta: The Roadless History of the World’s First Designated Wilderness
As The Wild Idea continues Roadless Month, hosts Bill Hodge and Anders Reynolds travel to the birthplace of the modern wilderness idea: the Gila Wilderness in southwest New Mexico. Joining the conversation are Bjorn Fredrickson, Conservation Director of New Mexico Wild, and Raul Turrieta, Deputy Chief Assessor for Grant County and longtime Gila neighbor. Together, they explore why the Gila was chosen as the world’s first wilderness, how its roadless character continues to define both the landscape and the surrounding communities, and why it remains central to today’s debates over the Roadless Rule.
Kristin Gendzier: The Roadless Rule’s Southern Roots
As The Wild Idea begins a month-long exploration of America’s most at-risk wild lands, hosts Bill Hodge and Anders Reynolds are joined by Kristin Gendzier of the Southern Environmental Law Center to establish the foundation for the series: what the Roadless Rule is, how it protects national forest roadless areas, and why it matters now.
Chris Wood: Why We Have The Roadless Rule (Redux)
In this special remastered conversation, The Wild Idea revisits a timely and essential discussion about one of America’s most important conservation tools: the Roadless Rule. As the rule approaches its 25th anniversary, hosts Bill Hodge and Anders Reynolds reintroduce listeners to Chris Wood, President and CEO of Trout Unlimited and one of the primary architects of the original 2001 Roadless Rule. This conversation offers critical context for understanding what’s at stake today and serves as a reminder that America’s public lands belong to all of us. This conversation kicks off Roadless Month on The Wild Idea, setting the stage for stories from across the country about the landscapes, communities, and cultures shaped by roadless public lands.
Michelle Fullner: Setting Resolutions with the Host of the Golden State Naturalist Podcast
As the year comes to a close, Bill Hodge and Anders Reynolds are joined by Michelle Fullner, host of the Golden State Naturalist podcast, for a reflective and wide-ranging conversation about growth, attention, storytelling, and intention. Listen in for a thoughtful meditation on why the stories we tell matter, how we show up for them, and what it means to move forward with intention in an uncertain time.
Sarah Francisco: From Working Lands to Wild Lands in the Southern Appalachians
Sarah Francisco, Virginia State Director of the Southern Environmental Law Center, joins The Wild Idea for a wide-ranging conversation about place, promise, and the long arc of public lands conservation in the southern Appalachians. Growing up on a Christmas tree farm in Virginia’s Shenandoah Valley gave Sarah an early understanding of how deeply people’s lives are tied to land — both the challenges of working landscapes and the deep affection they inspire.
We talk about how those early experiences shaped her career in environmental law and advocacy, and how they continue to inform her work protecting national forests across Virginia and the broader Appalachian region.
“Good News” Returns With Good Tidings
Anne Robinson returns to The Wild Idea after completing her seven-month through hike of the Appalachian Trail, from Georgia to the summit of Katahdin. Picking up where we left off at the halfway point in Harpers Ferry, Anne reflects on what the second half of the trail revealed — about endurance, fear, community, and the layered human stories embedded in places many of us think of as “wild.”
Martha Williams: The Long Term View on Species Recovery
Martha Williams, former Director of the US Fish and Wildlife Service, joins us for a grounded conversation about what it really takes to care for wildlife over time. Drawing on decades of experience at both the state and federal level, Martha talks about stewardship, coexistence, and the responsibility that comes with living alongside wild species.
Chris Eyer: Muledragger
Wilderness packer and saddle maker Chris Eyer joins us for the first time, and it feels like talking with a friend who lives right up against the wild edge of Montana. Chris walks us through the places that shaped him and how he found his way from Southern California trail work to a life built around horses, mules, and the Bob Marshall Wilderness. It’s an easy, grounded conversation with someone who carries a deep connection to the places he loves.
Ben Goldfarb: Paving Paradise – How Roads Reshape the Wild
Environmental journalist Ben Goldfarb joins us for a wide-open conversation about how roads shape wildlife, ecosystems, and the public lands we depend on. Ben breaks down the stuff most of us never think about, like how tire dust kills salmon or how road noise stresses out songbirds. He also shares what pulled him into road ecology in the first place and how he tells big, complicated stories in a way that still leaves you feeling hopeful.
Grounded in Traditions: The Ties That Connect Us
This week ushers in “The Holidays”, the time of year that chaos and connection reign supreme. Today we’ve invited our friends to share the stories and moments they return to every year, the ones that ground them in place and bring them closer to the people they love. We hope you enjoy these stories as much as we did.
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Humans have been part of Earth’s natural cycle for 300,000 years, with brains much the same as ours for the past 100,000 or so. What’s evolved isn’t our biology but how we understand our place in the natural world. As small populations grew into communities and then into societies, we created cultural, religious, and legal frameworks to help explain and define our connection to the rest of life on Earth.